This interview with Adi Tatarko, chief executive of Houzz, an architecture and interior design Web site, was conducted and condensed by Adam Bryant.
Q. Did you have the entrepreneurship bug early on?
A. Both my grandmother and my mother were entrepreneurs. They kept saying: âItâs all about you. If you want something, you can do it. Just be passionate about something and go all the way." So it was just something that I was part of early on. I saw both of them working very, very hard, but they thrived.
Q. Other influences from your family?
A. Even at school I was frustrated sometimes because it was just so traditional and people couldnât think out of the box. I questioned things. Instead of my mother telling me, âNo, you have to do it exactly the way they say it,â she actually encouraged me to think out of the box. Itâs O.K. to question things. She was so supportive on that front.
Q. How did that manifest itself as you started building your company?
A. We wanted to find the right investors who supported our vision, and I didnât want to go to V.C.'s on Sand Hill Road and start pitching people. I just didnât want to do it. Itâs not me. I love what Iâm doing, and if somebody wants to join us as investors, they need to understand it without me making a standard pitch. So we would just have coffee with people in an informal environment and talk about what we are doing. We figured theyâll get it, and if they donât, then they shouldnât be our investors. This was the way we did it. It was very informal.
Q. But even if itâs over coffee, youâre still pitching.
A. Thatâs true, but it wasnât in the forum that people are used to. It was important for me to say: âLook, Iâm not going to try to package it in the way that you are used to. Iâm not going to make up numbers for a PowerPoint and show you that the company is going to be worth X and make Y. I donât have a crystal ball.â Even today, I keep saying to investors that I donât have a crystal ball and I have no idea whatâs going to happen in five years. I know who I am, I know what the company is, I know where weâre going. I have the power to control the day-to-day and what we are doing, but I donât know whatâs going to happen. It goes back to what my mother said when I was in school: âIf you have another way to say it, just tell them you have an innovative way to demonstrate it.â
And the investors have been fine with it. I told investors when I met them in the restaurant: âIf you think that youâre going to be feeling that this is not right, and weâre not doing it the way you are used to, then just donât join. Itâs going to be very, very different.â And they actually liked it. It is different.
Q. You have 110 employees now. How did you build the culture?
A. My husband, Alon, and I are running this company together, and we said early on that we wanted to be a pretty flat organization. It started from the idea that people can be way more creative when they donât have middle management.
How many times do engineers feel frustrated because they are very talented and they have to report to a middle manager who isnât necessarily talented? At some point, the engineer just says, âI donât want to do it.â Or they feel that if they donât get promoted to be that manager, then theyâre not good enough. And itâs not true. You can be an amazing individual contributor, but not necessarily even like being a manager.
So many times those middle-management positions can just block people from growing individually. So we actually built the company in a way that we donât have middle managers at all. This also requires hiring people who are very mature and experienced, and who can take everything from coming up with a concept all the way to executing it by themselves, and be very creative, innovative and entrepreneurial.
Q. But people need priorities, too.
A. We set the goals for the entire company. Itâs very important that everybody in the company understand where we are going, why we are doing what we are doing, and what other people in the company are doing. We all sit in one big open space together. We have company meetings every few weeks just to make sure everybodyâs on the same page. So we talk about these goals, and they own their goals.
Itâs all about numbers and how do we get there and how do we achieve everything. They own this, and it works. Itâs just amazing. You let people own something, and be entrepreneurs, and they thrive. You see people are moving between tables consulting with each other. And they are getting an immediate response from their work because things move really fast in a small company.
Q. How do you hire? If you were interviewing me, how would that conversation go?
A. I will first walk through your résumé and try to understand why youâve made certain choices. Iâm trying to understand what type of person you are, and the choices you made and the way you made them will tell me a lot about you. So itâs less about the type of jobs you did; itâs more about why. Why this company and not the other company? Why did you move from this one to the other one? So Iâll try to learn about you and who you are. I just in general want to understand what is it that will make you happy. So I will ask you, âWhat will make you thrive?â But I will also ask, âWhat will make you unhappy?â
Q. In terms of the culture?
A. Yes. And this is always very interesting, and you learn a lot about people. Sometimes theyâre very surprised, because they donât expect a negative question like, âWhat makes you unhappy at work?â But you hear great answers.
Q. Whatâs a great answer for you?
A. I like hearing that people donât like to be micromanaged. They like to be responsible for something. People donât like repetition. They donât like boring things. When someone says, âI want to own something. I want you to trust me,â I love that.
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